Posted by R. W. Bess on Wed, Apr 4, 2018, at 10:26 PM:
Guess that could be foreign policy and other countries have foreign policies too. While everyone is questioning Trump's comments about bringing our troops home and ending our involvement in Syria, Let's look at the recent deal between Russia, Turkey and Iran. Putin vows to supply the weapons Iran sends to arm the terrorist against Israel, partner with Iran to build reactors in Turkey and all three agree to build houses and hospitals in Syria. Turkey will withdraw support for the Kurds and again expel the refugees into western the EU.
So what should Trump do?
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What should Trump do?
First - quit yapping about our plans and telegraphing what we are going to do militarily. That's a page right out of Obama's failed policies.
Second - get serious about what will happen if Trump - like Obama - leaves the mid-East to it's own. ISIS II will spring up in a few weeks.
Third - get Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan and Israel to join with the US and fight the ISIS / Islami Jihad / Caliphate / etc. and put an end to this mess once and for all.
IMO.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 7:41 AM
The way I understand it , the USA even being involved in this cluster fuct to begin with is to get rid of ISIS . If Syria , Russia, Turkey and Iran want to continue the war against ISIS let them spend their own blood and treasure , let Putin take the fall for the Middle East cesspool for a change . The money the USA is wasting over there can be used for better stuff , I'm sure .
I'm under the opinion other then ISIS , the USA is helping the Syrian and Kurdish Rebels too . This is equal to slapping the Mother-in-Law , once a person starts it's hard to stop . ...and then it really doesn't change anyhing in the long run , she's the same ....
I'm no General , Secretary of the State , or President by a long shot but my vote is to cut the losses and get it . Make sure all USA military equipment is removed too , don't let Syria , Russia, Turkey and Iran get a hold of any USA technology . Just leave behind a few spies to see what's really happening .
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"You gotta know when to hold 'em , gotta know when to fold 'em ."
~~ Kenny Rodgers
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 7:49 AM
err , uummm "cut the losses and get it"...I meant "cut the losses and get out"...freakin' fat finger flu and flat mind...
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 7:53 AM
What should Trump do?
IMO: 1) Don't repeat Obama's mistakes in pulling out before the job is completely done. ISIS is like rats and will only filter back into the region once the USA is gone.
IMO: 2) Syrian and Kurdish Rebels should be protected/supplied by the USA to keep the Russians and Iranians from taking over that area of the world causing it to be more of a mess than it already is.
IMO: 3) The USA needs to continue to be an Ally of Israel no matter what.
IMO: 4) Trump needs to have NATO (Turkey is a member) to keep the Muslim refugees in Turkey and other Muslim countries and not to allow anymore to enter the EU which has too many of these "refugees/terrorists" there already.
Schaefer's World
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 8:18 AM
...and then there's the wild card too...
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Israeli air attack kills Palestinian at Gaza border
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 8:33 AM
semo
IMO , this region of the World and it's People have been at each others throats since Christ and Mohamad wore sandals .
No amount of USA blood or treasure is going to change it now , doesn't matter who the USA President is -- Reagan and the bombing of USA soldiers in Beirut , Clinton , BushII and Iraq , Obama and his amateur ploys , Trump , or whoever is next after Trump....it's a freakin' cesspool ...
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 8:40 AM
Could start the arms race all over again, drill baby drill to drive down oil and gas prices and strengthen the petro-dollar while the Russians go broke trying to keep up. Iran is openly behind the siege on Israel along with Egypt quietly arming and paying rewards to entice attacks from Gaza.
Support Israel loudly with arms and back them up when they have had enough of Obama's peaceful favorites trying to destroy them.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:05 AM
R. W. Bess
I believe I've read somewhere that the USA is now the World's leading oil and gas producer . Put the money squeeze on the oil producers without firing a shot , they'll still feel the pain .
Israel is Israel , they don't play that **** with anybody , no matter who . They've already had an airstrike on Syria once this year over drones in Israel air space . Give 'em what they need and the USA won't have to be bothered with the mess --- dumb f*** Obama couldn't or wouldn't help Israel . I haven't seen ISIS do one thing to Israel yet and I don't think anyone else will either .
Israel is Israel , they don't play that **** with anybody .
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Listen to the wind , it talks .
Listen to the silence , it speaks .
Listen to your heart , it knows .
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-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:15 AM
I certainly have no answer to the problem, but it seems like we are shooting the little sheet heads over there, all the while shooting ourselves in the foot by coddling and changing our customs and traditions to accomodate them over here.
My opinion, they don't like the turd world country of their origon, then they change and live as we do or go back where they came from.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:16 AM
"Obama couldn't or wouldn't help Israel."
Rick, Muslims do not help the Jewish people.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:20 AM
ISIS , a baby of the Obama/Clinton era
I agree with Trump , get out ...
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A Brief History of ISIS....ISIS emerged out of the dashed hopes of the Arab Spring.
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:38 AM
IMO, the plan of world dominance by the Muslim/Islam culture/religion is to migrate into the Western countries and overcome the local populations and governing powers by substituting their brand of laws for the unforeseen countries where they have migrated to.
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IMO , this region of the World and it's People have been at each others throats since Christ and Mohamad wore sandals.-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 8:40 AM
Rick: The USA has to maintain a strong supporter of Israel and in the area because if not our absence might lead to another World War which would lead to millions of deaths.
Schaefer's World
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 11:51 AM
The objective to invade Afghanistan was to find and kill Osama Bin Laden . This object has been accomplished , why is the USA military still in Afghanistan , why is the USA losing blood and treasure after it's objective has been met .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:49 PM
semo
IMO , the next World War will be digital or cyber warfare .
It could be going on right now , it seems almost everyday another company or industry has been hacked .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 9:52 PM
Sears Holding, Delta Air hit by customer data breach at tech firm
Department store chain Sears Holding Corp (SHLD.O) and Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N) said on Wednesday some of their customer payment information may have been exposed in a cyber security breach at software service provider [ 24]7.ai.
Technology firm [ 24]7.ai, which provides online support services for Delta, Sears and Kmart among other companies, found that a cyber security incident affected online customer payment information of its clients, it said.
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 10:18 PM
"IMO, the plan of world dominance by the Muslim/Islam culture/religion is to migrate into the Western countries and overcome the local populations and governing powers by substituting their brand of laws for the unforeseen countries where they have migrated to."
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Almost like in the New World with Plymouth Rock , Jamestown , Christopher Columbus , and the Original 13 Colonies ....
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 10:37 PM
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Apr 5, 2018, at 10:37 PM
Rick: True, see how effective it is.
Schaefer's World
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 8:02 AM
In 2014 a small army of Federal Agents tried to confiscate land and killed Cliven Bundy's live stock they deemed on Federal Land . Men armed with the same style of weapons as the agents held the line and drove the Federal Agents back . Over time Bundy won his case against the Government . Why ? Because it shows what happens when Patriots armed properly to defend against a Government willing to take what is not theirs by force , was met with equal force .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 10:26 AM
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 10:26 AM
Well said! The fact that Bundy got off shows the government overreach and aggressiveness... like Ruby Ridge... like Waco Texas...
Commie Lettau always believed as long as it wasn't happening in his back yard incidents like these were paranoia.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 1:22 PM
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 10:26 AM
Rick: That's what our Founding Fathers must have had in mind when the 2nd Amendment was adopted. The power is in the People.
Schaefer's World
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Apr 6, 2018, at 3:13 PM
U.S. Targets Allies of Putin in Latest Round of Sanctions
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States imposed major sanctions on Friday against 24 Russians, striking at allies of President Vladimir Putin in one of Washington’s most aggressive moves to punish Moscow for its alleged meddling in the 2016 U.S. election and other “malign activity.”
The latest move is aimed at seven Russian oligarchs and 12 companies they own or control, plus 17 senior Russian government officials. They freeze the U.S. assets of the people and companies named and forbid Americans in general from doing business with them.
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sun, Apr 8, 2018, at 10:12 AM
Are the Germans still looking for reasons to say they didn't have a Muslim attack?
I have not been following the news today.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Apr 8, 2018, at 9:32 PM
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Apr 8, 2018, at 9:32 PM
OJ: The Germans are finding out that letting the Muslim "refugees" into the country was a Huge mistake - thank God that Trump had more sense.
Schaefer's World
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Apr 9, 2018, at 7:12 AM
Israel is Israel , they don't play that **** with anybody ...
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Russia: 2 Israeli jets carried out airstrike in which Iranians were killed
Apr 9, 2018, 3:30PM Becca Noy
After Syrian news outlets pointed the finger at Israel, the Russian military officials said that Israeli fighter jets carried out Monday morning’s airstrike on Syria’s T-4 airfield. Meanwhile, a war monitor confirmed that 14 people, including several Iranians, were killed in the attack that appears unrelated to the recent chemical attack in Syria.
Hadashot news reported that a shipment of weapons from Iran that recently reached the base was likely the target of the attack.
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Apr 9, 2018, at 7:15 AM
China's Xi Pledges Greater Openness Amid Trump Trade Dispute
(Bloomberg) -- Chinese President Xi Jinping reiterated pledges to open sectors from banking to auto manufacturing in a speech that also warned against returning to a “Cold War mentality” amid trade disputes with U.S. counterpart Donald Trump.
Xi pledged a “new phase of opening up” in his keynote address Tuesday to the Boao Forum for Asia, China’s answer to Davos. While the speech offered little new policy, Xi affirmed or expanded on proposals to increase imports, lower foreign-ownership limits on manufacturing and expand protection to intellectual property -- all central issues in Trump’s trade gripes.
China will support Russia against US, says new Defense Minister
China’s new defense minister has said that the U.S. should take notice of China’s support of Russia, state-run Tass Russian News Agency recently reported.
Gen. Wei Fenghe, during a meeting with Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu while attending the seventh Moscow International Security Conference, said that his visit was to show their commitment to bilateral relations.
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Guess that could be foreign policy and other countries have foreign policies too. While everyone is questioning Trump's comments about bringing our troops home and ending our involvement in Syria, Let's look at the recent deal between Russia, Turkey and Iran. Putin vows to supply the weapons Iran sends to arm the terrorist against Israel, partner with Iran to build reactors in Turkey and all three agree to build houses and hospitals in Syria. Turkey will withdraw support for the Kurds and again expel the refugees into western the EU.
So what should Trump do?
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