Posted by R. W. Bess on Sat, Nov 16, 2019, at 11:35 PM:
You watched a coyote chasing a bird on TV and knew it couldn't really be true how he stopped in midair before he fell off the cliff.
You understood Popeye's spinach wasn't the key to his strength because you ate it because you liked it and it never had that effect .
Climbing trees was at self risk and you knew it.
You grasped an early understanding of the consequence of disobeying parents.
Maybe others could add this idea of where common sense begins.
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As a grade schooler going to a Catholic school, I became aware at the Git-go to not tee off the Nuns.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Sun, Nov 17, 2019, at 7:59 AM
I was so renowned that I got to meet the school board early on. That taught me how to behave in school but school or parents never taught us what to think.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 17, 2019, at 8:23 AM
As a youngster I learned that it was more fun to ride my bike down a hill and not up it.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Sun, Nov 17, 2019, at 8:41 AM
Always admired the great communicators and I ain't in their company.
The point of my post was about how children today seem to be reared with suppression of their God given instinct to assess risk and recognize and separate what is reality and fiction.
I know it's a different world now. We often thumbed a ride to school to avoid the long bus ride or the walk to town on Saturday but no one needed to tell us who and who not to accept a ride from. We had common sense and were trusted to use it.
Growing up we had some teachers that included opinions with education and our background of parental trust in thinking allowed us to see past all that.
I sometimes think some children of the past few decades have been deprived of the opportunity to be proud of their heritage that is of free thinking lovers of liberty.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 17, 2019, at 11:11 PM
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Sun, Nov 17, 2019, at 11:11 PM
You are 100% on Target.
It gets old watching the new generations, some now marrying and having children of their own, and totally incapable of being able to locate their hind sides with their hands in their hip pockets.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 10:29 AM
Sounds like a bunch of old people trying to blame the current generation for the problems they created. Older generations for years have tried to always blame the younger people for their problems. Own it You did it. I have faith in the younger crowd. They have corrected a lot of problems and are more informed and educated than the elders.It is time for new ideas and new ways.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 1:29 PM
Allow the very young to learn on their own and their less likely to fall for all the left wing whacko slanted education the neo-socialists have established in government funded schools.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 1:36 PM
Allow the very young to learn on their own and their less likely to fall for all the left wing whacko slanted education the neo-socialists have established in government funded schools.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 1:36 PM
Or the Right wing Whackos too. Could you give some examples to back up your claim ?
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 1:47 PM
When I was in high school out of the good number of teachers I had contact with, I knew the political ideology of only one teacher. He pushed the Democratic Party and Leftist thinking. If the rest of them had a preference they were polite enough to keep it to themselves. Of course this was the 50's.
Funny thing, he had a son run for office, well after he was gone, on the Republican ticket.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 4:20 PM
Mr. Bollinger, you are deluding yourself if you cannot see the leanings of the colleges.
When my kids left for college, my advice was, get an education and keep your common sense. I am a little prejudiced no doubt, but it worked pretty well.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 4:29 PM
J B, Google school children singing an Obama worship song, look up what is being taught about sea levels rising and global warming caused by fossil fuels. See if you can locate a government funded school that educates children to the fact that those giant wind generators consume more fossil fuel energy in the process of being manufactured and maintained than they are capable of producing and why nothing seems to grow well near them.
There are all kinds of examples but if I did your research and proved it, you would be of the same opinion still.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 6:06 PM
They have corrected a lot of problems and are more informed and educated than the elders. It is time for new ideas and new ways.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 1:29 PM
IMO, the youth of today don't care a cat's behind about politics....most of them don't even know enough about the USA government to pass an old Civics test. They can't get off their phones long enough to know what's going on in the USA or the world.
Don't think the current crop of high school graduates are any better educated - most testing results are unchanged from earlier years according to the following link. Could it be that Liberal thing that has crept into the school boards and education in general.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 6:26 PM
Why is it children in their late teens and early to mid 20's have to bring a girl friend, boy friend, wife or husband home to live in Mom and Dad's basement and be insured until they are 26 if they are so self sufficient.
I left home and got a job at 18, married just short of 20, furnished my own housing, food and health insurance. Not to mention auto and auto insurance.
And I required my children do pretty much the same. We are coddling them way too long in life instead of making them self sufficient and responsible young adults in way too many cases.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 8:39 PM
J B, Google school children singing an Obama worship song, look up what is being taught about sea levels rising and global warming caused by fossil fuels. See if you can locate a government funded school that educates children to the fact that those giant wind generators consume more fossil fuel energy in the process of being manufactured and maintained than they are capable of producing and why nothing seems to grow well near them.
There are all kinds of examples but if I did your research and proved it, you would be of the same opinion still.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 6:06 PM
I am not sure what 1 school back in 2009 has to do with anything now. How do you feel about Trump chants toward minorities ?
You probably should not get your information from internet memes.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 8:09 AM
Why is it children in their late teens and early to mid 20's have to bring a girl friend, boy friend, wife or husband home to live in Mom and Dad's basement and be insured until they are 26 if they are so self sufficient.
I left home and got a job at 18, married just short of 20, furnished my own housing, food and health insurance. Not to mention auto and auto insurance.
And I required my children do pretty much the same. We are coddling them way too long in life instead of making them self sufficient and responsible young adults in way too many cases.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 8:39 PM
In the area I grew up in in Bollinger County I recall several middle aged couples still living on the farm with their parents. And that was the 60’s. Kids and all. How is that different from what you are saying? And BTW, I know of no one my daughters ages that is doing this.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 8:13 AM
When my kids left for college, my advice was, get an education and keep your common sense. I am a little prejudiced no doubt, but it worked pretty well.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 4:29 PM
When mine left for college I told them to go and learn. Keep your mind open,learn from other cultures,treat people with respect,form your own opinions and be passionate about them.
I did not want little clones.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 8:18 AM
I did not want little clones.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 8:18 AM
Let's hope you didn't have any!
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 8:29 AM
Same for you !!!
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 8:35 AM
Same for you !!!
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 8:35 AM
Nope, all different in how they manage their lives, but all with the values that were instilled in me as a child.
In addition to that not a one of them turned out to be a couch sitting, bed wetting Liberal who is dependent on the government for a subsistence.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 9:18 AM
Again, just trying to pigeon hole a entire generation you know nothing about.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 10:33 AM
Again, just trying to pigeon hole a entire generation you know nothing about.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 10:33 AM
Mister Bollinger,
I do not believe I pigeon holed an entire generation. Contrary to what you appear to believe, I do not think the entire younger generation are couch sitting, bed wetting Liberals. Quite frankly, many in the younger generation, my children and grandchildren included, went to college, majored in a subject that netted them a job on graduation and are helping to support the previously mentioned group. Not to forget those who chose chose to take jobs in the trades and obtained a job shortly after graduating high school.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 12:27 PM
Again, just trying to pigeon hole a entire generation you know nothing about.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 10:33 AM
And you know everything about the current generation....you didn't know that the test scores haven't changed to any degree in the last 10 years....did you look at my link on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 6:26 PM?
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 12:33 PM
"Teachers are educators , not baby sitters , values and morals are taught a home , not school."
Rick, I would be pleased as punch if that is where The Board of Education, Educators and Government would leave things. Unfortunately I do not believe that is the case in way too many instances.
Yes it was a little more than 10 years ago, but Richard was correct on the "Obama Chant". That was an Educator pushing her own political agenda off on youngsters and it was wrong then and it is wrong now. As I mentioned earlier, there was one teacher who tried pushing his political agenda when I was in high school. Not one of the other teachers did so. I think it is much more prevalent now.When my daughters were in high school, they had a teacher who pushed his agenda. While I had a tendency to agree with some of the things he would say, I did not agree with him pushing it to young minds, that is up to parents to do or not to do as it suits. Never have told my children how to vote.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 2:18 PM
Mr. VanGennip, You still did not answer my question about people living with their parents in the 60's and 70's. What is you position on that ?
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**And you know everything about the current generation....you didn't know that the test scores haven't changed to any degree in the last 10 years....did you look at my link on Mon, Nov 18, 2019, at 6:26 PM?
-- Posted by Schaefer's World on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 12:33 PM
I looked at it and so what ? Students should be taught responsibility at home. That is where your generations children failed.
Also your comment about a civics test shows you know nothing about education or the system!!! Students are required to pass a test on the constitution before they can graduate and in Missouri they are required to pass The Missouri constitution as well. Is that civics enough for you. As for you IMO statement that is just what it is, Your opinion not based upon anything. That and a dollar might get you a cup of cheap coffee.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 2:51 PM
"I looked at it and so what ? Students should be taught responsibility at home. That is where your generations children failed."
Since both of our kids have good jobs, buying their own homes, plus good responsible kids of their own, guess that is only your opinion which that and a dollar might get you a cup of cheap coffee.
"Also your comment about a civics test shows you know nothing about education or the system!!! Students are required to pass a test on the constitution before they can graduate and in Missouri they are required to pass The Missouri constitution as well."
The students also are suppose to be able to read and write but hey just pass them and get them out of school into society where they will be deadbeats drawing their monthly welfare checks.
Yes Mr. Bollinger IMO you don't know Jack about the current Liberal schools systems of give them a ribbon we don't want to make little Jeffrey cry - was that you in school. LOL at you as always.
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 2:51 PM
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 4:55 PM
Unless getting paid to push an agenda, most of us don't have time to rebut every rebuttal. I did take time to check out Mr Bollinger's links and could find several to refute.
Maybe something good will come from the teachers union. The trades unions brought us the DIY hardware stores we all love and all those country bumpkins still living on the farm may turn to DYI education without a goal of higher average grades by holding the best back and elevating the lesser.
There was a reason the lowest grade was a "D". ha!
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 9:13 PM
Mr. VanGennip, You still did not answer my question about people living with their parents in the 60's and 70's. What is you position on that?
-- Posted by Jeffrey Bollinger on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 2:51 PM
Mister Bollinger, I did not live in Bollinger County in the 60's, but to answer your question, when I did live there until the mid 50's, I cannot think of anyone I knew where the adult children and grandkids lived with their parents. I did know of some cases where the elderly parent moved in with a child and their family, or maybe the child had purchased the farm or home from the parent based on some kind of arrangement that the older parent was to stay there until their death.
But no, with many relatives in Bollinger County I cannot think of any middle aged couples with children being supported by their parents with a place to live because they could not afford a place of their own. Was there some, possibly, but I do not believe it to be prevalent, nor do I think there were parents paying their children's health insurance for them until they were 26 years old either.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 19, 2019, at 10:43 PM
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You watched a coyote chasing a bird on TV and knew it couldn't really be true how he stopped in midair before he fell off the cliff.
You understood Popeye's spinach wasn't the key to his strength because you ate it because you liked it and it never had that effect .
Climbing trees was at self risk and you knew it.
You grasped an early understanding of the consequence of disobeying parents.
Maybe others could add this idea of where common sense begins.
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